%ISOlat1; %ISOlat2; %ISOnum; %ISOpub; ]> A Merry Dialogue between Thomas and John. / In the praise, and dispraise of Women, and Wine. / Thomas against the Women doth contend, / But John most stoutly doth their cause defend, / Young and Old, read these lines that ensue, / You’l all confess that which I write is true, / I know no reason, but that without despute, / This may as well be printed, as sung to Lute. University of California - Santa Barbara The Early Modern Center Director Patricia Fumerton 1670-1670 Early Modern Center, University of California Santa Barbara Santa Barbara, CA 04/21/2011 30419

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R216073 2 a gallant delightful new Tune, well known amongst Musitioners, and in Play-houses UNKNOWN A Gallant Delightful New Tune, Well Known Amongst Musicians, and in Play-houses Women and Wine UNKNOWN Women and Wine SOme Women are like to the Wine, / like the Sea, and like the Rocks; But if you'l believe me / i'le tell you true, / What light Women are like unto, / Wine, Wine, Women and Wine, / thus may you compare them too. [with variation] Roxburghe Ballads Editor None None None None Information in this section of the Source Description refers to the original ballad manuscript. 3: 88 3: 89 A Merry Dialogue between Thomas and John. / In the praise, and dispraise of Women, and Wine. / Thomas against the Women doth contend, / But John most stoutly doth their cause defend, / Young and Old, read these lines that ensue, / You’l all confess that which I write is true, / I know no reason, but that without despute, / This may as well be printed, as sung to Lute. 1670-1670 J. Williamson

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Thomas. SOme Women are like to the Wine; like the Sea; and like the Rocks; But they that proves them, soon may find em like the Wine and Weather-Cocks: But if youl believe me ile tell you true, What light Women are like unto, Wine, Wine, Women and wine, thus may you compare them too. John. Women most constant Men do find; not like the Sea, but like the Rocks, They are evermore loving and kind, not like the Wine and Weather-Cocks, But if, etc.
Thomas. Women have hooks, & Women have crooks; so hath the Wine, so hath the Wine, Which draws great Lawyers from their books, so will the Wine, so will the Wine. But if, etc. John. Women have beauty and fair looks, so hath the Wine; so hath the Wine; Far surpassing the Lawyers books, more then the Wine, more then the Wine. But if youl believe me, ile tell you true, What good Women are like unto, Wine, Wine, Women and Wine, thus may you compare them too.
Thomes. WOmen are witches when they may, so is the Wine, so is the Wine, Which causeth men from their wives to stray so will the Wine, so will the Wine. But if youl believe me ile tell you true, What light Women are like unto; Wine, Wine, Women and Wine, thus may you compare them too. John. Women are witty when they may, so is not Wine, so is not Wine; And causeth Men at home to stay, so doth not Wine, so doth not Wine. But if, etc. Thomas. Women have arms for to imbrace, so hath the Wine, so hath the Wine, Which brings brave Gallants to disgrace, so doth the Wine, so doth the Wine. But if, etc. John. Women most sweetly do imbrace, more then the Wine, more then the Wine, And save their Husbands from disgrace, so doth not Wine, so doth not Wine. But if, etc. Thomas. Womens tongues are like sharp swords, so is the Wine, so is the Wine, Which urgeth men to swear damnd Oaths, so doth the Wine, so doth the Wine, But if, etc.
John. Womens tongues do speak sweet words, so doth not Wine, so doth not Wine, They can perswade from damned Oaths, so will not Wine, so will not Wine. But if, etc. Thomas. Women they do use to change, so doth the Wine, so doth the Wine, And oftentimes abroad do range, when Sun doth shine, when Sun doth shine, But if, etc. John. Good Women they will never change, so will the Wine, so will the Wine, For profit they abroad will range, Hail, Rain, or Shine, Hail, Rain, or Shine But if, etc. Thomas. Women they will fight and brawl, filld with Wine, filld with Wine, Their Husbands they will Cuckolds call, inflamd with Wine, inflam'd with Wine But if, etc. John. Good women they will comfort all, like the best Wine, like the best Wine, What ever sorrow doth befall, so will good Wine, so will good Wine. But if youl believe me, ile tell you true, What good Women are like unto, Wine, Wine, Women and Wine, thus you may compare them too.
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