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            <note type="Tune-1">the meddow brow</note>
            <note type="Tune_Simpson-1">Walking in a Country Town</note>
            <note type="Tune_Modern-1">The Meadow Brow</note>
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            <note type="First_Lines2">THere are some in our Parrish,/ that too much are to blame:</note>
            <note type="Refrain2">I would you had not said so. {variation in final stanza}</note>
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            <note type="References">Rollins (1) I:122-127; STC 14045.7 [J. White] for T. L[angley 1618]; Rollins (2) 1210 (July 8, 1618, III, 629, Tho. Langley).</note>
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                     <seg n="1" rend="left"><hi rend="italic">I would you never had said so,</hi></seg>
                     <seg n="2" rend="left"><hi rend="italic">To the tune of upon the Meddow brow.</hi></seg>
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                     <l n="1" rend="left"><hi rend="italic">T</hi>Wo loving Friends once meeting</l>
                     <l n="2" rend="left">by chaunce upon the way:</l>
                     <l n="3" rend="left">In kindnesse gave each other,</l>
                     <l n="4" rend="left">the good time of the day:</l>
                     <l n="5" rend="left">And the one desir'd the other,</l>
                     <l n="6" rend="left">along with him to goe:</l>
                     <l n="7" rend="left">The other denayd, and to him said,</l>
                     <l n="8" rend="left"><hi rend="italic">I would you had not said so</hi>.</l>
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                     <l n="9" rend="left">Beeing demaunded why,</l>
                     <l n="10" rend="left">that he that wish desir'd?</l>
                     <l n="11" rend="left">Why sir quoth he my reason is,</l>
                     <l n="12" rend="left">because I am almost tyr'd:</l>
                     <l n="13" rend="left">And are you tyr'd quoth he,</l>
                     <l n="14" rend="left">tis more then I did know?</l>
                     <l n="15" rend="left">Then truely since with all my hart,</l>
                     <l n="16" rend="left"><hi rend="italic">I would you had not said so</hi>.</l>
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                     <l n="17" rend="left">But seeing you are weary,</l>
                     <l n="18" rend="left">now let us take repose:</l>
                     <l n="19" rend="left">Heere let us sit and rest us,</l>
                     <l n="20" rend="left">and to you Ile disclose:</l>
                     <l n="21" rend="left">Some Vices in the Country,</l>
                     <l n="22" rend="left">amongst us dayly grow:</l>
                     <l n="23" rend="left">If youle attend good Sir quoth hee,</l>
                     <l n="24" rend="left"><hi rend="italic">I would you had not said so</hi>.</l>
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                     <l n="25" rend="left">For truely in the Citty,</l>
                     <l n="26" rend="left">from whence I came are more:</l>
                     <l n="27" rend="left">More hatefull vices, name you one,</l>
                     <l n="28" rend="left">Ile name you halfe a score:</l>
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                     <l n="29" rend="left">Ist possible (quoth he)</l>
                     <l n="30" rend="left">the Citty so should flow?</l>
                     <l n="31" rend="left">With Vice in such abundance,</l>
                     <l n="32" rend="left"><hi rend="italic">I would you had not said so</hi>.</l>
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                     <l n="33" rend="left">But now sir for the Country,</l>
                     <l n="34" rend="left">because I must begin:</l>
                     <l n="35" rend="left">Ile first speake of the Mizer,</l>
                     <l n="36" rend="left">that lump, that heape of sinne:</l>
                     <l n="37" rend="left">This urchin is a Farmer,</l>
                     <l n="38" rend="left">whom many men doe know:</l>
                     <l n="39" rend="left">He scrapes and hoards the Divell and all</l>
                     <l n="40" rend="left"><hi rend="italic">I would you had not said so</hi>.</l>
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                     <l n="41" rend="left">Though Barnes and Racks be full,</l>
                     <l n="42" rend="left">though Chists be cram'd with Coine:</l>
                     <l n="43" rend="left">And though he nothing wanteth,</l>
                     <l n="44" rend="left">yet must he needs purloyne:</l>
                     <l n="45" rend="left">His Tennants Rents heele raise,</l>
                     <l n="46" rend="left">his Neighbors heele undoe:</l>
                     <l n="47" rend="left">By removing of their Land markes,</l>
                     <l n="48" rend="left"><hi rend="italic">I would you had not said so</hi>.</l>
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                     <l n="49" rend="left">And if a Neighbour hath,</l>
                     <l n="50" rend="left">neere him a pee[ce of?] ground:</l>
                     <l n="51" rend="left">Heele never leave by right nor wrong,</l>
                     <l n="52" rend="left">till it to him be bound:</l>
                     <l n="53" rend="left">If true meanes cannot get it,</l>
                     <l n="54" rend="left">he then to Law will goe:</l>
                     <l n="55" rend="left">And wrong a poore man for his owne,</l>
                     <l n="56" rend="left"><hi rend="italic">I would you had not said so</hi>.</l>
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                     <l n="1" rend="left"><hi rend="italic">T</hi>Here are some in our Parrish,</l>
                     <l n="2" rend="left">that too much are to blame:</l>
                     <l n="3" rend="left">For in a yeere scarse once,</l>
                     <l n="4" rend="left">they to the Church ere came:</l>
                     <l n="5" rend="left">But doth the Alehouse haunt,</l>
                     <l n="6" rend="left">and so themselves undoe:</l>
                     <l n="7" rend="left">O Lord sure quoth the other againe,</l>
                     <l n="8" rend="left"><hi rend="italic">I would you had not said so</hi>.</l>
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                     <l n="9" rend="left">O sir I could reveale quoth hee,</l>
                     <l n="10" rend="left">of truths a number more:</l>
                     <l n="11" rend="left">Which shame makes me conceale,</l>
                     <l n="12" rend="left">but yet I greeve therefore:</l>
                     <l n="13" rend="left">For many doe offend,</l>
                     <l n="14" rend="left">which heare I may not show:</l>
                     <l n="15" rend="left">Truely replide the other then,</l>
                     <l n="16" rend="left"><hi rend="italic">I would you had not said so</hi>.</l>
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                     <l n="17" rend="left">Then heare me (qd.) the Townesman</l>
                     <l n="18" rend="left">for fearelesse Ile begin:</l>
                     <l n="19" rend="left">Apparantly to tell you,</l>
                     <l n="20" rend="left">now of the Citties sinne:</l>
                     <l n="21" rend="left">There's all the acts of Rogarie,</l>
                     <l n="22" rend="left">or ought that longs thereto:</l>
                     <l n="23" rend="left">Fore tend it quoth the Countryman,</l>
                     <l n="24" rend="left"><hi rend="italic">I would you had not said so</hi>.</l>
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                     <l n="25" rend="left">The Courtiers proud, and Lawyers,</l>
                     <l n="26" rend="left">doth knavish cunning use:</l>
                     <l n="27" rend="left">The Trades man by his bying,</l>
                     <l n="28" rend="left">doth many men abuse:</l>
                     <l n="29" rend="left">All the Informers are turnd knaves,</l>
                     <l n="30" rend="left">they little good do do:</l>
                     <l n="31" rend="left">The Sargeants cruell, sir quoth he,</l>
                     <l n="32" rend="left"><hi rend="italic">I would you had not said so</hi>.</l>
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                     <l n="33" rend="left">The Broker in the Hundred takes:</l>
                     <l n="34" rend="left">good man but Foure score:</l>
                     <l n="35" rend="left">His Conscience is so upright,</l>
                     <l n="36" rend="left">he will not aske for more:</l>
                     <l n="37" rend="left">The Bawd she will turne honest,</l>
                     <l n="38" rend="left">when whores she doth forgoe:</l>
                     <l n="39" rend="left">That will be never, sir quoth hee,</l>
                     <l n="40" rend="left"><hi rend="italic">I would you had not said so</hi>.</l>
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                  <lg>
                     <l n="41" rend="left">The Curtizans shall vertious proove,</l>
                     <l n="42" rend="left">when all their faults are fled:</l>
                     <l n="43" rend="left">And Punckes shall surely honest live,</l>
                     <l n="44" rend="left">when Panders all are dead:</l>
                     <l n="45" rend="left">The Taylour he [sha]ll steale no more,</l>
                     <l n="46" rend="left">when he hath no worke to doe:</l>
                     <l n="47" rend="left">He cannot then the other said,</l>
                     <l n="48" rend="left"><hi rend="italic">I would you had not said so</hi>.</l>
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                     <l n="49" rend="left">The Brother gainst his brother,</l>
                     <l n="50" rend="left">and Father gainst the Sonne:</l>
                     <l n="51" rend="left">The sonne against the Father goes,</l>
                     <l n="52" rend="left">till they are all undone:</l>
                     <l n="53" rend="left">And Wives against their Husbands,</l>
                     <l n="54" rend="left">doe make to much a doe:</l>
                     <l n="55" rend="left">Sir this quoth th'other grieves me most,</l>
                     <l n="56" rend="left"><hi rend="italic">I would you had not said so</hi>.</l>
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                  <lg>
                     <l n="57" rend="left">Most men so impious are,</l>
                     <l n="58" rend="left">that they devise all evills:</l>
                     <l n="59" rend="left">And in their dealings worser proove,</l>
                     <l n="60" rend="left">then doe incarnate Divells,</l>
                     <l n="61" rend="left">The Citty Wives phantastick prove,</l>
                     <l n="62" rend="left">yet make a modest show:</l>
                     <l n="63" rend="left">Their wiles theyle have the other said,</l>
                     <l n="64" rend="left"><hi rend="italic">I would you had not said so</hi>.</l>
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                     <l n="65" rend="left">Their Scycephanting Parrazites,</l>
                     <l n="66" rend="left">their Mistris humours smooth,</l>
                     <l n="67" rend="left">And eke the cheating basse Decoy,</l>
                     <l n="68" rend="left">poore country men doe sooth:</l>
                     <l n="69" rend="left">Till by their Cheating tricks,</l>
                     <l n="70" rend="left">they quite doe them undoe:</l>
                     <l n="71" rend="left">Quoth he this case is pittifull,</l>
                     <l n="72" rend="left"><hi rend="italic">I would you had not said so</hi>.</l>
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                  <lg>
                     <l n="73" rend="left">Thus have you heard what newes,</l>
                     <l n="74" rend="left">is now within the Citty:</l>
                     <l n="75" rend="left">How all doe practise villanie,</l>
                     <l n="76" rend="left">without remorse or pittie:</l>
                     <l n="77" rend="left">Let us now having rested,</l>
                     <l n="78" rend="left">upon our Jorney goe,</l>
                     <l n="79" rend="left">Where to, though loath hee greed, yet said</l>
                     <l n="80" rend="left"><hi rend="italic">I would you had not said so</hi>.</l>
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                  <lg>
                     <l n="81" rend="left">Trust me it is great pitty,</l>
                     <l n="82" rend="left">to heare this bad report:</l>
                     <l n="83" rend="left">Of Country, and of Citty,</l>
                     <l n="84" rend="left">how all men doe extort:</l>
                     <l n="85" rend="left">I would they would reforme,</l>
                     <l n="86" rend="left">and thinke whats best to doe:</l>
                     <l n="87" rend="left">That Countryman nor Cittizen,</l>
                     <l n="88" rend="left">Might never gainst them say soe.</l>
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